A Story about Colloidal Gold & Karl Reinhart

I came across Karl's web sites and decided to purchase an OVO from him in May 2006.

I followed his instructions to the letter and have failed to make even a single ounce of colloidal gold.

After several attempts, the machine just kept blowing fuses, obviously a short circuit in the system.

After much communication with Karl, we discussed various options. I even assisted him in redesigning the electrode.

Karl agreed to send me a newly designed OVO which he assured me would work as advertised.

So, many emails later and lots of excuses from Karl, all I have now is some more material for the land fill. I have even offered to pay for shipping for the replacement. He now refuses to answer my emails.

In closing, if you are willing to spend $350.00 for land fill material, go for it, but don't say you have not been warned. I hope you don't get burned like I did.

ps. Karl if you are reading this, please refund all the money or send a working replacement and this page will disappear. We can still be friends :)

You win.. but duh, We have talked on the phone and you know I have issues with supply/demand and production. I just woke up when I noticed your email in my spam folder.. yahoo goes and does that from time to time. So, if I send you an Ovo system today will you take that down and do something constructive with your domain?

Yes I will take down the site in due course. I'm still hoping we can work together after things are sorted out.

May I ask what you are investigating? There isn't much more to tell other than what's posted on the web site.

The veracity of the many lofty claims made by manufacturers of these products also the production methods involved.

Cannot make any comments yet because I have not had a working unit to play with. Time will tell.

I see Karl has reduced his price again. A quote from his web site "Abundance is a vibration not your checkbook. Focus on what you want more of and the rest follows." ??????

I believe it is important to publish this on your web page. Karl is in a financial hole and is not sending out orders. There are a number of people who will never get their orders. That is really a minor issue compared to what has recently been discovered by a person in the UK that ordered a large array off him. The large array is a series of bodged bits and pieces from all kinds of things ( including a couple of coils from a microwave) that turns out to be a killing machine if it ever works. Luckily my friend is still alive because it never did work. It was sent without any instructions whatsoever and blew an instant fuse. This machine has over 20,000 volts running through one part of it. It could kill even if its turned on and not touched. The machine has been examined by an electrical technician and he said it was highly dangerous and would not give you a second chance. Electrocution from it is a certainty.

Hopefully Karl will close his website and do the right thing or he may end up killing himself or inadvertently someone else.

I'm just passing this interesting info on. Karl, you are welcome to respond.

Hi I'm One Off Those Guy's/Fool That Was Ripped Off Trying To Buying 1 Of The OVO's From Karl, I Ordered 1 Just After My Mother Died In Dec/07,At First Karl Was Emailing/Youtubing Almost Every Few Day's Saying Great Things About A Great Product, Then He Slowly Started To Ease Off As The Dead Line For A Dispute For Paypal Came & Went, Still I Trusted Him, Well Here I Am 8 Months Later Looking Like The Fool I Am For Having Done It, No OVO & No Money, His Excuses ranged From It Will Be Sent In Just Days To Don't You Read The News, Company's Are Going Under Every Day & I'm Trying Too Stay Afloat, I'm Convinced That It's Just A Very Profitable Con For Karl @ $350 Or $7,000 A Pop & His Video's Playing & Seen By The Thousands Around The World On Youtube & Other Video Sharing Sites He is Pulling In 10's Of Thousands A Year While Crying Poor, So If Your Thinking Of, Or Have Bought Anything From Karl You Can (Your Trusting Like Me) Kiss Your Money Goodbye.

PS Karl I Know Your Reading This So If Not For Me Then For My Dead Mother! Do The Right Thing. Dated Aug 6/08

Oh boy, I think I'm next on his list. I sent him money last week. I got an email 1 week later and no machine. He said he's working on it and it's been a crazy week for him. I emailed him again and so far no reply;( Thanks for making this website.

I am sorry this is going to be a little longer than usual complain
reports. The reason for me to write it is not just to add one more report case to your list, it is my intention to stop him from his doing.

I HAVE REASONS TO BELIEVE KARL IS NOT JUST A SIMPLE CON, HE IS A TRUE DANGEROUS PSYCHOPATH AND IT IS TIME TO STOP HIM BEFORE SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET PHYSICALLY HURT OR KILLED.

Two years ago I paid him USD 700 for a previous type colloidal gold machine. Months went by, he told me his wife died and he was moving on onto another job. Months passed by and he was all along cool and giving me the 'hope" that he will take the time to put together one last piece of machine just for me! He never did, I lost my patience and ask for my
money back. Surprisingly he did sent my money back at that time. Couples of months ago I came across his new fancy website and congratulated him for it...Immediately I ordered one of the OVO. Paid all and the usual story all over again, with the difference that this time he seem to have disappeared the moment I sent the money to him.

I do dream about people sometime and work in counseling and spiritual readings since many years as one of my occupations. Sometime things come to me in dreams. One month after this last payment and disappointment I did sent him one last warning email in which I ask my money back and if not, I would have taken some action against him ,in order to let people know what he is doing. he never reply to me . The night I wrote my last email to him ,about one week ago, I went to sleep and obviously the contents of my email were bothering me while falling asleep. I had in that very night the most horrible and disturbing nightmare I ever had in my life.

When I wake up I knew it was about Karl. In the dream he was kidnapping people and placing machines similar to bombs with timers on their backs. He was freaking out everyone and all people where in terrible panic and fear. All he had to do was pushing a button and he would explode one person at the time. He was hangrily speaking and having fun at the same time ,like a child playing a game. He was revenging the fact that someone had killed his "beloved dog" . He was holding his dog beheaded head under his harm and was showing it to all people as a symbol for which he would revenge , blaming on all these innocent people being responsible for the loss of his dog . I woke up in the middle of the
nightmare knowing that it was time to take action, someone has to stop him.

I am not a computer person, I have no idea if this is possible, but the question is : could we all get together and sent a report to Google and ask for his website to be shut down?? There must be a way to do this . If anyone of you know how, please write .

I have found your webpage and all these reports on people being cheated too late ,just like all the others. But I feel this is not the case anymore about getting the money back, being nice, playing cool or feel the fool of the day. This it is about all of us having enough information that could potentially save peoples lives and do something about it before any innocents may pay with theirs lives .

karl Hasn't Done The Right Thing, Sending Me My Money Back, So The Last Guy Was right, It's Time Too Get Pro Active, I've Loaded Some Bad Quality Vid's On Youtube Under The Name colloidalgoldSCAM (first of many), I Invite people 2 Check Them Out & Rate/ Comment On Them, I Also Will Be Contacting Paypal, google, Youtube & His Local Police 2 Lay Charges Of Fraud, I Will Be Asking My Bank 2 Do The Same, So If Your Smart Karl I Would @ Least Send Me My Money Back Or Suffer Continually Till U Do. PS Karl Has Started Moderating His colloidal gold Group On Yahoo, So There's Another Avenue For A Phishing/Fraud Scam, Time 2 Fight Fire With Fire, I Will Slash & Burn Web Eastate Till I Get My Money KARL. KD

Here's an interesting email I just received. Here's a portion of the covering email titled: Correspondence with Karl Reinhart. See below for a link for a complete transcript.

I hope that you'll be able to host the attached document and that the users of your site will benefit from my, fruitless, dealings with Karl, even though I have not.

Correspondence with Karl Reinhart

Karl, you are welcome to respond. Funny thing is that, I could post very similar emails I received from you. Perhaps you are employing canned responses.

September 21, 2008: from D.C.:

Well I may as well put my two cents in. I like everyone else had the same experience. This guy is a true nut job and manipulator. I purchased a unit of it him a year or two ago which was meant to take 2 weeks to arrive. Six or so months later it finally arrived but didn't work. I tried using different fuses, every water and h2o2 you can think of and still nothing.

Still me believing in this guy i ordered another electrode off him. It finally arrives another six months later. Still no go, no gold colloid. The part that pissed me off was that i recently sold it on ebay thinking it was just user error and that someone else might luck with. Now i have unknowingly passed a piece of crap on to another person. That really angers me.

This guy really is a manipulative jerk. Dont believe a word he says. He sounds all so honest and sunshiny, i mean hell i even made a small donation to the fellow just to see if i could get my unit hurried along. Just stay clear guys there not only does his equipment not work, and he is full of empty promises but also not right in the head Karl admins the cg group and as well i get the feeling has a number of identities. One in particular by the name of Mark. Just be careful guys a number of times i got zapped by the ovo

From D.C.

September 27, 2008: from Robert:

I first began corresponding with Karl back in March 2008. I am financially unable to furnish the money to buy an OVO unit however recently 28th Aug 2008 I asked Karl if he would be willing to sell me the reactor tube separately to which he sent me a paypal request for payment $30 (see pictures attached). Karl told me he would ship it in the next couple of days and provide me with a tracking number.

Shortly after - days became weeks and Karl went silent with the only one or two emails which were vague about his situation describing how he was financially in a bind. I then chanced upon this website searching google to only read that others are in a worse position than i am having been stung by Karl not for $30 but for hundreds. (see emails below)

$30 is $30 and small change compared to the hundreds those before me have lost. Simply put if Karl is unable to fullfill a simple $30 order for a reactor tube then how is it possible he can fullfull an order for several hundred dollars and more. A reactor tube is a little larger than a large texta pen, it weighs next to nothing and freight i assume would be small compared to shipping a complete OVO unit.

Further I wish to add that during our many correspondence Karl was very helpful, provided me with many details about the science of making CG which enabled me (i think) to make my own CG. I'm not sure why or how exactly though Karl did explain - i could make my own CG by simply using 110V DC with soda water and mineral water, some H2O2 and a stainless steel pot. (See pictures). However i couldn't get it perfect thus i requested from Karl if he would sell me the reactor tube alone as i felt this may improve the CG batches.

I don't know if Karl is a scammer or simply someone who is in financial debt and thinks he can trade his way out - regardless - it is for me a point of ethics and impeccability. If a person takes your money promising in return a product or service knowing full well they will not be able to deliver that product or service as promised then this is considered as theft - some may call it a scam.

Since I paid for the reactor tube on 26th Aug 2008 - Karl went dead silent. Prior this we had been corresponding heavily for month. Below is the last correspondence i have from Karl and since then he is not responding to my emails and he has not updated me on when i will receive my reactor tube and my money has not been refunded. It is now 27th September.

I write this here only to spare others the same torment if they are considering to purchase an OVO unit or any other product by Karl Reinhart or Shekinah Guild. Should i ever receive my reactor tube I'll update this post to reflect this fact but after reading everyones experience here i somehow doubt i will ever receive my reactor tube.

Karl is working on some new plasma system called "FireFly" which will superscede the OVO. Perhaps he is using all our money to fund this R&D for his benefit.

I've attached relavent paypal requests and receipts and also some pictures of my homemaking CG process which Karl step by step told me how to make.

Again i stress - I don't know who exactly or what Karl is doing nor if he is maligned or if he is actually a scammer. He came across to me as genuine but then perhaps i was fooled and suckered. Only $30 !! times must be tough to scam $30 lousy dollars. But the point is if you can't deliver then don't "take" the money Karl. I'm still looking forward to one day receiving my reactor tube.

Think twice and research heavily before you hand over your money to Karl or any other CG machine making business.

Regards

Robert

Attachments available upon request

December 9, 2008: from Bruno, in France :

Hello,

Just to say thank you, I was about to send him money, but I knew something was wrong.
He claims he was very busy but he always respond very fast to my emails. I made a search on the web and I found your website.

Your website make me in front of the truth. THANK YOU!

December 12, 2008: from Betty, in USA :

So happy to see this website. I sent karl $50 dollars for colloidal gold
December 2007. We went back and forth for a month, now a year has past. no
colloidal gold or money make. just excuses. He really needs to be shut down.
I contacted PayPal but they said a month had past and they could do nothing.
There is another website that promotes Karls machines. I will try to find
the site again and tell them about this unethical man.

Do you know of a trustworthy site that sell the colloidal gold or the
machine. I heard it is good for nerve conditions.

Thank you,
Betty

April 5, 2009: from KD:

Well Karl Has Finally Resonped To My Youtube Email I Include It Here For You,If You Don't Post It Cause Of His Threat Thats Your Choice But Man I'll Tell You He's Got Some F in Nerve Threatening His Victims,I've Cut And Pasted it Here Cause That The Extent Of My Computer Skills,Thanks For Posting,Dk

Re: Dec 2007
Keith,

I am certain that your false and missleading statements have made your claim forteit.

Perhaps a Slander Suit would put things into perspective for you?

Once you jumped on this 'Karl is a Scam artist' train you opted out for any opportunity of redemption.

What ever excuse you use to justify your assumptions it does not cover you by law to be stating your oppinion as fact.

Multiple counts of slander are easily demonstrated by virtue of your statements of intended harm to me via email.

So maybe you should just think about what it feels like to be suddenly overwealmed by legal issues that turn your life upside down and force your already stated condition of poverty into something worse?

That is my friendly reminder to you that there are laws to protect us all and I have rights that you have clearly violated in vast excess of your claim against me.

Enjoy the silence,

Karl

My response to KD:

I wouldn't worry about Karl's threats, he's just blowing smoke. No one has slandered him. He's the one whose practices that are in question.

I think I will take my chances and publish his response. Notice how he justifies not making good on his product "Once you jumped on this 'Karl is a Scam artist' train you opted out for any opportunity of redemption."

Plain and simple, sending money to Karl is risky at best.

*Karl, you are welcome to respond.*

April 13, 2009: from cj&kj:

Back in the early part of 2008 my wife was taken by Karl to the tune of $600.00 for one of his machines. After she sent several emails asking for the product she gave up. In October I continued the request to Karl for product or refund. Well just like all the other posts I got a lot of poor excuses and neither a refund or product.. Karl it is time to step up to the plate and take responsibility for what you have done and continue to do. I know you have no problem sleeping at night but you should. Doing the right thing means telling the truth and making an effort to make whole all these people you took money from

CJ&KJ.